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		<title>By: H. Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ros:

Why didn&#039;t you just cancel the order and buy it from someone else?  That&#039;s what I&#039;d do.  If I have an inkling that I&#039;m about to receive poor customer service, I immediately cancel the order and demand a full refund. (And get it too.) If that cell wasn&#039;t in my house after 10 days, that would have been the end of the deal, especially since they had no intention of explaining to you what was going on.

I worked a lot of years in the retail and restaurant industries.  I know what good customer service is supposed to be and if I don&#039;t get it, buh-bye!  Plenty of other fish (vendors) in the sea.

&lt;strong&gt;Hi H. Fred,

I didn&#039;t cancel the order because I didn&#039;t KNOW the guy was lying to me. I&#039;d give them 10 days to deliver to Canada anyway, then when they said it hadn&#039;t shipped the first time, I gave them another chance... who KNEW they&#039;d lie to me again after that?

Cheers,
Ros&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ros:</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t you just cancel the order and buy it from someone else?  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d do.  If I have an inkling that I&#8217;m about to receive poor customer service, I immediately cancel the order and demand a full refund. (And get it too.) If that cell wasn&#8217;t in my house after 10 days, that would have been the end of the deal, especially since they had no intention of explaining to you what was going on.</p>
<p>I worked a lot of years in the retail and restaurant industries.  I know what good customer service is supposed to be and if I don&#8217;t get it, buh-bye!  Plenty of other fish (vendors) in the sea.</p>
<p><strong>Hi H. Fred,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t cancel the order because I didn&#8217;t KNOW the guy was lying to me. I&#8217;d give them 10 days to deliver to Canada anyway, then when they said it hadn&#8217;t shipped the first time, I gave them another chance&#8230; who KNEW they&#8217;d lie to me again after that?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Ros</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Anji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a patient person you are.  We have customers wanting to know where there purchases are almost before they&#039;ve paid.  Hope that you complained to eBay.

I hope the weather stays hot enough where you are for you to enjoy your newly cleaned pool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a patient person you are.  We have customers wanting to know where there purchases are almost before they&#8217;ve paid.  Hope that you complained to eBay.</p>
<p>I hope the weather stays hot enough where you are for you to enjoy your newly cleaned pool!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You go get &#039;em baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You go get &#8216;em baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or is anyone else surprised that Rosalind would have subjected herself to these hassles just to save around $500?! Hey, I&#039;m all for saving money, but come on... I would have walked into the local store carrying the product, paid retail, and walked out with the cell the *same day* and have avoided this entire fiasco in the first place. That way if there was a problem, I&#039;d know that I could speak directly with a live person in my hometown instead of having to deal with some guy in another country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is anyone else surprised that Rosalind would have subjected herself to these hassles just to save around $500?! Hey, I&#8217;m all for saving money, but come on&#8230; I would have walked into the local store carrying the product, paid retail, and walked out with the cell the *same day* and have avoided this entire fiasco in the first place. That way if there was a problem, I&#8217;d know that I could speak directly with a live person in my hometown instead of having to deal with some guy in another country!</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ros!

You go get em baby! Good for you! I had this happen a while back on Ebay. Ebay has changed a LOT over the years. I don&#039;t think its for the better:o) (still a place to get a great deal, but how good is the deal when it stresses you out so much, ya know?)

I wonder if you had the mustard algae? I had that one year and its almost impossible to get rid of. I heard, that it can come, (spores spread thru the air) from other neighborhood pools. 

Just FYI...

Stay Real!
Carolyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ros!</p>
<p>You go get em baby! Good for you! I had this happen a while back on Ebay. Ebay has changed a LOT over the years. I don&#8217;t think its for the better:o) (still a place to get a great deal, but how good is the deal when it stresses you out so much, ya know?)</p>
<p>I wonder if you had the mustard algae? I had that one year and its almost impossible to get rid of. I heard, that it can come, (spores spread thru the air) from other neighborhood pools. </p>
<p>Just FYI&#8230;</p>
<p>Stay Real!<br />
Carolyn</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you mention that insider secrets for selling on ebay is for beginners. can you recommend a product that would help somewhat experienced sellers to take their business to the next level?

regards, 
Max.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hi Max,

Good question - I don&#039;t really know of another all-round eBay training package, other than what is available on the eBay site itself. 

Does anyone else have a recommendation to help Max?

Thanks,
Ros&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you mention that insider secrets for selling on ebay is for beginners. can you recommend a product that would help somewhat experienced sellers to take their business to the next level?</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Max.</p>
<p><strong><em>Hi Max,</p>
<p>Good question &#8211; I don&#8217;t really know of another all-round eBay training package, other than what is available on the eBay site itself. </p>
<p>Does anyone else have a recommendation to help Max?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Ros</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Cherie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed you waited that long, you must have the patience of a saint! And a bit off the track but if the chemicals turn your hair green just put tomato ketchup on your hair and it gets rid of the green (strange but true!)

Cherie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed you waited that long, you must have the patience of a saint! And a bit off the track but if the chemicals turn your hair green just put tomato ketchup on your hair and it gets rid of the green (strange but true!)</p>
<p>Cherie</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Vinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Vinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 06:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing story; you were very polite considering. It would have been understandable had you used words like &quot;moron&quot; or worse in your communications to them. Kudos for warning others about them in spite of the threat! 

  I guess the silver lining is that they sure make a good seller look stellar by comparison!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing story; you were very polite considering. It would have been understandable had you used words like &#8220;moron&#8221; or worse in your communications to them. Kudos for warning others about them in spite of the threat! </p>
<p>  I guess the silver lining is that they sure make a good seller look stellar by comparison!</p>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can avoid neutral/negative feedback by filing a dispute with ebay.  Disputed items allow you to post negative without your business partner (the seller in this case) being able to retaliate with a negative.  I do the same thing, go way out of my way to help out a seller in case they were having a bad time.  However, in your case, that Pool Supply USA place was lying and making excuses.  They deserve a negative.  I would not have waited that long if you were dumping so many chemicals into the pool to keep it clear of algae.  Wasn&#039;t there somewhere else you could have gotten a slightly worse deal?  If I were making five figure income, I don&#039;t think I&#039;d be wasting my precious time with dishonest sellers to tell you the truth.

Thank you for your stories.  You have given me a lot of interesting stories and food for thought.  However, as an experienced ebay person, the ebay package from Derek Gehl&#039;s company (which I bought on your recommendation) was not worth it.  I returned it.  

Cheers,
Ana

Thanks kindly for your comment and I have a couple of thoughts / comments to share in response.

Derek&#039;s &quot;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.auctiontips.com/t.cgi/3885/powersellers&quot;  target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;em&gt;Insider Secrets to Selling on eBay&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&quot; isn&#039;t intended for &#039;experienced ebay&#039; persons such as yourself. It is better suited for those learning how to build a business on eBay and those such as Ted who haven&#039;t figured out how to run their eBay business properly.

As to &quot;I would not have waited that long&quot; and &quot;If I were making five figure income&quot;...

First of all, it&#039;s been a long time since I made a 5-figure income. I&#039;ve been in the 6 and 7 figure range since 1999.

That said, I don&#039;t see that earning more than average is an excuse to spend a thousand bucks on a product that sells for half that price. People don&#039;t become millionaires by spending their money foolishly.

As for &quot;I don&#039;t think I&#039;d be wasting my precious time with dishonest sellers&quot;...

To recap, the product was ordered on June 30th, paid for on July 5th, finally shipped on August 7th and arrived on August 9. I was on vacation for 2 weeks during that period... and we kept checking with the house-sitter to see whether the cell had arrived.

Had I &lt;em&gt;known&lt;/em&gt; that the seller was lying to me about having shipped the product, I would have been all over it much sooner. 

But that&#039;s the inherent difficulty with lies and liars... as an honest person, you assume the best and don&#039;t find out that they&#039;re liars until late in the game.

So, most folks would respond much as I did - by waiting patiently for the first week or 10 days, find out it hasn&#039;t shipped, assume it was a simple oversight (not knowing that it was a lie), forgive, go on and hope for the best. 

Cheers,
&lt;strong&gt;Rosalind&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can avoid neutral/negative feedback by filing a dispute with ebay.  Disputed items allow you to post negative without your business partner (the seller in this case) being able to retaliate with a negative.  I do the same thing, go way out of my way to help out a seller in case they were having a bad time.  However, in your case, that Pool Supply USA place was lying and making excuses.  They deserve a negative.  I would not have waited that long if you were dumping so many chemicals into the pool to keep it clear of algae.  Wasn&#8217;t there somewhere else you could have gotten a slightly worse deal?  If I were making five figure income, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be wasting my precious time with dishonest sellers to tell you the truth.</p>
<p>Thank you for your stories.  You have given me a lot of interesting stories and food for thought.  However, as an experienced ebay person, the ebay package from Derek Gehl&#8217;s company (which I bought on your recommendation) was not worth it.  I returned it.  </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Ana</p>
<p>Thanks kindly for your comment and I have a couple of thoughts / comments to share in response.</p>
<p>Derek&#8217;s &#8220;<a HREF="http://www.auctiontips.com/t.cgi/3885/powersellers"  target="new" rel="nofollow"> <em>Insider Secrets to Selling on eBay</em></a>&#8221; isn&#8217;t intended for &#8216;experienced ebay&#8217; persons such as yourself. It is better suited for those learning how to build a business on eBay and those such as Ted who haven&#8217;t figured out how to run their eBay business properly.</p>
<p>As to &#8220;I would not have waited that long&#8221; and &#8220;If I were making five figure income&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>First of all, it&#8217;s been a long time since I made a 5-figure income. I&#8217;ve been in the 6 and 7 figure range since 1999.</p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t see that earning more than average is an excuse to spend a thousand bucks on a product that sells for half that price. People don&#8217;t become millionaires by spending their money foolishly.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be wasting my precious time with dishonest sellers&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>To recap, the product was ordered on June 30th, paid for on July 5th, finally shipped on August 7th and arrived on August 9. I was on vacation for 2 weeks during that period&#8230; and we kept checking with the house-sitter to see whether the cell had arrived.</p>
<p>Had I <em>known</em> that the seller was lying to me about having shipped the product, I would have been all over it much sooner. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s the inherent difficulty with lies and liars&#8230; as an honest person, you assume the best and don&#8217;t find out that they&#8217;re liars until late in the game.</p>
<p>So, most folks would respond much as I did &#8211; by waiting patiently for the first week or 10 days, find out it hasn&#8217;t shipped, assume it was a simple oversight (not knowing that it was a lie), forgive, go on and hope for the best. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
<strong>Rosalind</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Howard Piesik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Piesik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right on, Rosalind.
I think You were more than fair.
In any business, the customer is the business.
And when you don&#039;t respect that, You have no business!
Howard Piesik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right on, Rosalind.<br />
I think You were more than fair.<br />
In any business, the customer is the business.<br />
And when you don&#8217;t respect that, You have no business!<br />
Howard Piesik</p>
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