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flexprimo
Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: The "Come Back" Affiliate |
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Hi Rosalind,
I started out in affiliate marketing using the same system as Colin MacDougall, which "J"ust "M"ight be best left unnamed 
I read your book not long after I read the other one, but to be honest I thought it sounded too complicated, with all the pay per click, email list building, etc. I didn't want to have to deal with customers or pay for my traffic.
Over the last year I've come to realize just how little value the sites built with the other system really have (as did Google when they delisted many of my sites), and have come full circle to really embrace list building, pay per click and building a small number of high quality sites, rather than a large number of low value sites.
I think you really hit the nail on the head with your book, and if people build sites using your framework, I think they're going to be in a much better position long-term.
Thanks for a great book (even if it took me way to long to understand how great it is  ) |
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Rosalind Gardner
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Location: Beautiful BC, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi flexprimo and thanks kindly for the endorsement!
Yes, SADLY, too many affiliates using that other 'system' have suffered the same fate as you and Colin.
The good news is that some, like you and he, have caught on to the 'basics' of doing business online... or off... through either the Super Affiliate Handbook or another of my friendly, knowledgeable colleagues.
The framework is really so simple. Build a list of leads and advertise!
Essentially, you're really advertising to build your list, so it doesn't matter if folks buy on the first visit or not.
Sorry that you found the SAH complicated. It's been extensively revised and more additions are coming down the pike soon!
Then again, what do 'they' say... nothing worth doing is ever 'easy', right?
Cheers,
Ros |
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flexprimo
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Rosalind Gardner wrote: | | Sorry that you found the SAH complicated. It's been extensively revised and more additions are coming down the pike soon! |
No need to apologize for that. It isn't anywhere near as complicated as having to go back and start all over again when all my successful sites dropped out overnight.
I thought that other system made things sound a lot easier but the reality is you can't get something for nothing. Your system isn't really complicated, it's just a bit harder work "up front". That work pays off in spades though, in the longer term. |
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niallr
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: Yup |
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I'm another one of those people who built a site based on "that" system. I spent a lot of time and money building up that site only to see it dropped like a hot stone by Google. 300 pages of content gone down the toilet.
With the same amount of time, effort and money I could have set up 10 - 12 smaller affiliate sites and be sitting on a nice monthly income now. *Sigh* We live and learn eh? No such thing as a free lunch.
BTW Colins new book is fantastic. Can't recommend it highly enough.
Niall |
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Rosalind Gardner
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Hi Niall,
Live and learn.
I'm presently disgusted by the author of that 'system'. I saw on another board that he's trying now to pawn his spammy methods off as 'entry-level' training.
I suppose that's a 'self-pardon'. Aargh.
Anyway, like I said, live and learn. With the Super Affiliate Handbook - VEO Report combination, you have a really good base for success as an affiliate.
Keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Ros |
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niallr
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: :-) |
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Hi Ros,
Forgot to mention the Super Affiliate Handbook I originally bought it about 2 years ago - must get myself the 2006 one soon. Time to add PPC and listbuilding to my business 
Cheers
Niall |
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Brad
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Rosalind,
I became a good friend with Colin last September. He and I have had many talks over the months and he most certainly took his bumps along the way. I can't say enough about his VEO Report. I have actually been lucky enough to see it grow from a 14 page "report" to the "book" that it is now.
Along with this, I also purchased your book back in 2003. I to thought it was a little complicated to start out with as a newbie back then. So I did find the JM book and got that and I actually used that to put up my first site. I put your book away for a while thinking I could all do it the JM way. Then I met Colin, learned the errors of my thinking and now I have your book and Colins always available to me. JM's book is now put away as I have learned those basics of site building plus I buy templates now.
I have a little different take on all three of these books. I believe the JM book gives a person new to web building a good foundation on how to build an actual site using something like FrontPage. He does take you step by step on that subject. Using that foundation, your book and Colins lets you build the building that will house your "empire" forever. You and Colin provide the framework, wiring, plumbing, doors, windows and roof.
Now two questions for you. Is there an update for your book from the 2003 model that I have? And then, when it comes to PPC, how many words should you use on a particular niche? I've seen some people say you need at 3,000 words on a niche.
Thanks,
Brad |
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Kevin
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
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Hi,
I have purchased Colin's book and think it is great. I was looking
at the credit card site and I do not see affiliate links or Adsense
and was wondering how is the site profitable? Is it through the
newsletter? Also does the fact their is no affiliate links or Adsense
have something to do with the high rankings in Google? |
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Rosalind Gardner
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Hi All,
Niall made the following comment:
| Quote: | | With the same amount of time, effort and money I could have set up 10 - 12 smaller affiliate sites and be sitting on a nice monthly income now. *Sigh* We live and learn eh? No such thing as a free lunch. |
Using my approach, 10 - 12 sites would be a LOT of work!!!
At Affiliate Summit East in July I'm doing a presentation on the Affiliate Track entitled "SUPER Affiliate Strategies for Sustainable Businesses"... the one I missed doing back in January when I got sick.
Here is the summary description of that presentation.
| Quote: | | Are you tired of spending long days and lonely nights researching and building one affiliate site after another, and frustrated by those tiny commission checks? Are you afraid you may have to scramble to make your mortgage payment the next time Google changes its algorithm? Does paid advertising make you see red? Would you like to secure a richer, more rewarding future by working with a sustainable affiliate marketing business model instead? Then attend Rosalind Gardner's presentation to learn the strategies Super Affiliates use to earn hefty six-figure annual incomes from just one or two Super Sites. |
Seriously, one or two really big sites in big markets are all you need to produce a sizeable income. They're a lot of work to set up - content, content, content - and you may even eventually require staff to help you maintain them (especially if you want to travel with all that money you'll be making ), but it's a heck of a lot easier in the long run than building site after site after site... or having to write 10 - 12 newsletters, which are of course the lifeblood of any site you build.
Just thoughts...
Cheers,
Ros |
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niallr
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: Agreed |
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Hi Ros,
I'd have to agree with you there. The management of dozens of small sites is and can be a total nightmare. I've been spring cleaning some sites this month and just closing down some that are far more work than they're worth. Anything that isn't making a dime is gone!
Based on what I've learned from Colin I'm focusing on one big site in one big industry at the moment. It's being taken very seriously with a ton of content planned and written for it. This is a big project for me and I'm really looking forward to the results from it. It's already live and so far so good
That being said I still like to build small niche sites and just let them do their thing. I just have this paranoia about putting too many eggs in one basket. My own persoanl goal is to have 3 large content sites (like the ones you mentioned) and 10 (maybe 20) smaller niche sites and a few infoproducts. It just suits the way I think
That reminds me I need to get the 2006 version of your ebook and start studying your approach
Cheers
Niall |
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connectingrainbows
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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Location: Southern Maryland
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After reading this story, I was thrilled! Colin has given a name to what I'm been practicing since I started working on websites - VEO. Now I want to go ranting and raving about his Report! But, of course, before I do that... does he have an affiliate program? For the life of me, I can't find a link.
Thanks for any help! |
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niallr
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi KC,
Yup Colin has an affiliate program that you can use to promote his products. Here's the link:
http://www.veoreport.com/affiliates.html
Hope that helps.
Niall |
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connectingrainbows
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks so much? Where did you get that link? I couldn't find it any where.  |
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niallr
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: ;-) |
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A McDougall carrier pigeon arrived at my house and said I could give it out here
Niall |
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